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Loxi Connerley

I really enjoyed reading this article. My opinion of such sites is much the same as yours, and it was fun to read your comparison of what information they touted to what information you have researched over the years.
Thanks for sharing it with us.

Robert Ragan

Good article, as usual, Richard. You're a great writer.

On Halbert:

That letter from Gary Halbert has wound up in college textbooks as an example of an outstanding direct mail letter. And it is because it has surely stood the test of time.

I heard Gary speak, on tape, in a marketing conference and say something that blew my mind. Back in the Bath, Ohio days when all of this was going on, people would drive through Bath, OH looking for the company.

These folks were usually on vacation and wanted to stop and talk about genealogy. It was a friendly visit they had in mind (just so you know), not a tar and feathering mission.

It happened so often that Gary set up a small building ala down home country-style, and hired some kind grandmotherly ladies to mind the shop. So...when people would drop in, there would be a place to chat about genealogy.

He made millions of dollars. He sold the company and I'm not sure what state it is in now. But I do know that it is a distant memory to Halbert. He has moved on to other things.

About coat of arms:

There are Heraldry societies and organizations that study this subject. Anything that will promote genealogy and family history is fine with me...but let's make sure that we know the story here:

You mention the American College of Heraldry.

Read these few paragraphs from the introduction found on their site:

"Heraldry is at once both an art and a science. Its origins are rooted in the social and political
structure which existed in Europe and the British Isles from about the year 1100 A.D. However, far from being an obsolete relic of a bygone era, heraldry has rather emerged as a vibrant and growing cultural form. Legitimate coats of arms are more widely used throughout the world today than ever before in history.

A large and rapidly growing number of Americans rightfully bear coats of arms. Many of these were granted, certified, registered or otherwise recognized by armorial authorities abroad, and a sizable number of these have been registered by their owners with The American College of Heraldry. In addition, the College has assisted many persons in designing a new coat of arms for their use which is then properly registered and published. An increasing number of corporate bodies have also acquired coats of arms which they display on armorial flags and in place of the less distinctive logo which is so rapidly outdated in terms of artistic style and structure."

Correct me if I'm wrong -- This organization will register you for a fee, they will create new coat of arms for companies, etc. This is a business! Got it?

Here is one of the top questions asked on their FAQ page:

"QUESTION: There isn't any OFFICIAL United States Government agency for registering arms in the United States. Who do you people think you are?"

"ANSWER: You cannot imagine the frequency with which this question arises, largely from individuals who have not spent the time to learn exactly what The American College of Heraldry does. We are not now, nor ever claimed to be, a GRANTING authority for arms. The College merely serves as a repository for those wishing to REGISTER their arms with an organization dedicated to preserving that heritage. Further, our goal is to aid those who wish to establish their own heraldic tradition create and register new arms. We have also assisted individuals in both creating new arms and having said arms registered with other international heraldic entities, such as the Court of Lord Lyon, The College of Arms, The Cronista Rey de Armas of the Kingdom of Spain, and the Collegium Heraldicum Russiae to name a few."

My two cents:

I just want to make sure that you know that there are organizations and businesses that work with Heraldry, Coat or Arms, Family Crests, etc. as a business...and I think it is wonderful.


I personally don't think that all of those products are "junk."

This stuff is popular and is selling like crazy!

Why?

People want their Family Coat of Arms, I want MY Family Coat of Arms and yes...even if you don't, there are people in your family who want their Family Coat of Arms...

EVEN IF they are not authentic! At least they have some form of history and connection to the surname to them.

Is that so bad? I don't think it is, especially if it gets MY family and cousins excited about genealogy. I need all the help I can get!

It's NOT going to bother your (okay, maybe yours, but not most peoples) family or my family. In fact, let me tell you exactly how it will go at one of my family gatherings...

I will have an O'Regan coat of arms picture I found on the cover of some genealogy information I print out and give to my Grandpa Ragan (he's been asking about it). I know him, he'll love it and say, "Boy, this is really interesting. Tell me about where you got it."

He already knows our line came from Ireland way back when. So I'll mention that and the part about O'Regan. I've got some information about the Ragans in Ireland, etc.

THEN I will tell him the all about how the coat of arms were given to individuals and not surnames and explain the whole thing and how I just put the picture on the cover because it looked nice.

Do you know what he will do? He will say something like, "That's interesting" and go on like I never told him about it at all--and then ask me IF I CAN GET THE COAT OF ARMS PICTURE FOR HIM TO HANG ON THE WALL!

All the while, other members of my family who are there are going to ooh and ahh over it: Both the genealogy information that I printed and especially the spiffy coat of arms. Especially since I went to the copy shop and had it printed in color.

Most people could care less if it is authentic. They just like it. It looks nice and it is has a historical appeal. I know my grandfather loves this stuff. He always get shirts for Christmas. Last year, he told us, "I've got enough shirts." So this year I am going to get him one of these coat of arms products.

He helped me get started with my genealogy over 20 years ago. So if this makes him happy and gives him a pride in the history of the Ragan name. It is valuable to me, authentic or not. I'm thinking of ordering the husband and wife's (side by side) coat of arms plaque myself.

Am I crazy? This is coming from a genealogy teacher who has told people to document their genealogy sources for all these years.

Just keep it simple:

If you do use coats of arms in your genealogy materials--just make sure to document the fact that it is not authentic.

So whenever you see a promotion that says, "Free Search of Your Historically accurate Family Crests and Coat of Arms" don't judge too harshly...There is nothing wrong in getting your family more excited about family history and you may (secretly) want your coat of arms (not authentic because, etc., etc.) hanging on your wall.

Keep up your wonderful work,

;-) Robert Ragan

Brian Lord

Hello,

Just a quick note to let you know that Copywriting and Direct Marketing genius Gary Halbert passed on peacefully on the 8th April 2007.

I understand your concerns with his product and we too in Australia got the letter and bought the "Coat of Arms" book you speak of... but as Robert says this was what got me interested in Geneaology. So is it so bad after all?

I thank Gary Halbert and was lucky enough to meet the man in 2005. He was a genius at direct marketing and always pushed the boundaries.

Sincerely
Brian Lord

Dick Eastman

Thank you for the information. I wasn't aware that Gary had passed away.

Actually, Gary sold the Halbert's business in Bath, Ohio to NUMA Corporation some years before it went bankrupt. He bailed out at the right time. I think that was before his prison term, although I'm not sure. After prison, he wrote a stock market newsletter and promoted a number of (mostly useless) products.

- Dick Eastman

Jason Hart

Gary Halbert never wrote a stock market newsletter, that is Gary D. Halbert, different fellow. Gary never invested in stocks and enjoyed spending ALL of his money. That was how he lived life. After he sold Halbert's he spent 11 million in less than a year - got to be some sort of record.

-Jason Hart

Donald Boyle

This company has risen from the ashes again and is selling it on The Shopping Channel in Canada.

Dick Eastman

Different company.

As I wrote in the original article, "Ever since I wrote that Halbert's has been shut down, I have received e-mails from people saying that the company only moved or perhaps was sold to new owners. Apparently the Internet newsgroups frequently contain wildly speculative messages claiming that Halbert's has been reincarnated elsewhere. These e-mails report "new operations" from various locations in Colorado, Florida, and Canada. In fact, all of the companies mentioned so far were in business for several years before Halbert's was shut down and are not affiliated with Halbert's in any way."

Shirley

I understand there is another peddler of coats of arms associated with Florida State University. Someone should investigate this.
The fact that it is associated with a university makes a lot of people think it must be valid.

Marielizabeth

Thank you for offering this information for free, no less. I have book marked the links you suggested. I am running into the same bogus rip off artists trying to get military information on my grandparents WWII era. I can buy replicas of the medals they recieved cheaper than what they want me to pay them to look for military records. Where can I find that information for free? Isn't it a matter of public record? I just wanted my grandsons and nieces and nephews to have some pride in who they are and where we come from, I am not a genealogist by any stretch of the imagination. I will provide you with two links if you would like and you can write another article so no one else gets ripped off. Any way, thanks again. I appreciated it.

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