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Beth

Great editorial! In the 60s and every decade since, we've been told that "soon" machines will be able to produce quality translations. That's still nonsense. Since at least the 80s we've been told that offices soon would be paperless. Nonsense. Then both schools and libraries were to be paperless/bookless. They aren't.

You mention production costs but not postage/distribution (perhaps meant to be included). A CD is cheaper to send than a book, a download even cheaper. You mention searching and cross-referencing but not updating which is at least as great an advantage for reference works.

As usual, your timing is very good. Your prophecies are right on. And neither librarians nor teachers will be out of work.

Carly Henderson

I'm sure that I'm not alone in wanting to cozy up with a good history of the areas that I'm researching in the quest for ancestors. However,I,like many others, have been burned too many times by purchasing books that one "hopes" will contain information about the surname you are seeking only to find that there is no mention. Now you are stuck with a useless book that costs anywhere from $25.00 to maybe $60 or $70. Most publishers do not give you an index on-line so you are shooting in the dark. I now have many hundreds of dollars invested in books that I cannot use. I have sworn off anymore blind purchases of either books or CD's. Until publishers start giving you the benefit of a searchable index I believe that they will lose customers who have been repeatedly disappointed.
Carly Henderson

Sally J

"All the Google programmers combined will never be able to replace a good reference librarian."

Amen to that!

Keyword searching is a powerful, useful tool -- but you have to know where to search before you can take advantage of it. And unfortunately it seems patrons are less likely to ask for help in the electronic environment. Archivists and librarians are working out how we can best help patrons who are offsite. So please don't hesitate to use the "Live Help" buttons if and when you find them.

rzamor1

The LDS Church is working towards having that "Online Genealogy Reference Librarian". It will be part of the Research Forums on "new FamilySearch". Sure are exciting times ahead.

Mary Beth Figgins

Electronic books are more difficult to highlight, correct, make notations and bookmark to read later. I have a few reference books on my pda but still prefer to use a printed book. I also find it easier to locate what I want in a printed book. And it is easier to pick up a pencil and make notations than to electronic highlight the passage. I think electronic has a way to go before they will replace printed.

If you want a book that will last you for years and that your kids will be able to use when they get older - printed is the way to go. So far, it's the only thing that will be useable in the future. Electronic is okay for books that get updated frequently like encyclopedias.

machias

Dick,

One huge advantage of digitizing that I feel you missed in your article is OCR (Optical Character Recognition) software. Just as you state about other technologies, OCR likewise continues to improve in quality and decrease in price at a rapid rate.

For those that are unfamiliar with this technology, OCR effectively recognizes numbers and letters while scanning. The scanned documents can then be searched just like the internet for surnames, place names, dates, etc. I specifically reference EBSCO's Newspaper Archive Elite and HeritageQuest's PERSI databases as excellent examples of using OCR in conjuction with digitized media. Additionally, Dick has previously mentioned the Google Book Search website http://books.google.com and does so again in this article. That site is another fine example of using OCR to produce digitized images that are also searchable.

> I also find it easier to locate what I want in a printed book.

I completely disagree. In PDFs, the text is searchable and you can highly customize bookmarks. Additionally, a high resolution PDF allows one to zoom in on a document, such as a gazateer, to a level that would rarely be possible with the original.

Mic Barnette

We are getting used to seeing records added to the web and are expecting the web to be even better in the future.

With a book, the information stays on the shelf from year to year or may be accessible in some form in different locations.

The thing that scares me about our reliance on databases and websites is the future.....
Cities, states, businesses and people are constantly having budgetary problems and change is normal. Profit is the medium businesses operate on. What happens if a business goes out of business or is sold to another company (a la Everton Publishers) that does not have the same vision as the first?

At the turn of the Millenium things were really looking up for genealogists. All kinds of records were being posted online. Birth, marriage and death databases were being added frequently. Then someone yelled PRIVACY- Poof!, there went those databases. Now states are trying to prevent even the peope whose record it is from accessing them.

While the present and current future looks great I fear a good(?) ecconomic depression or privacy scare could wipe all that out. While databases are fabulous, I feel safer if I know the same data is also available in a paper format on an accesible bookshelf.

And to think, I consider myself an optimist?
MIC

DIno (All Dino, All the Time)

Even people like Winston Smith who are employed maintaining databases understand that unless a record is fixed, and not subject to continual tinkering, there can be no real history.

I much prefer books. I love to use them and prefer them over PDF versions of books. But it's awful nice to have books, like those from www.archivecdbooks.com on CD, with me when I am in a library doing research. So, I guess I'd take the best of both worlds.

But nothing, absolutely nothing, beats the books ability to survive 500 years of changes in technology and still be plucked from a shelf in read. We can't do that with compuer documents that are only 25 years old.

Heather

To chime in regarding OCR - I have seen far too many OCR projects where the type was too faded or ornate for the software to decipher and so it guessed! Strange results sometimes. OCR has a ways to go before it is the product it is touted to be. As a genealogy librarian I love both formats. If I had to choose however, I would still choose print. The format is still the most stable and reliable. Electonic materials are only available when you have a power source.

Dick Eastman

As to OCR: Please keep in mind that most of this entire article talks about NEW books. OCR is not an issue with new books.

Older books bring an entirely different set of circumstances to deal with.

- Dick Eastman

vwsheldon

Although old books may be a different topic, they can still be helpful. As Heather said there are significant problems with OCR'ing old books. One plus is that OCR'd text is searchable. The main problem is that the OCR process is, at BEST, only 99% accurate. The Gutenberg Project (www.gutenberg.org) posts out-of-copyright books (pre-1923). In order to increase the accuracy, volunteer proofreaders triple check the copy so that the text matches the original. Books from many places, including some from the French Biblioteque Nationale and Google have been OCR'd, proofread and posted. I personally have proofread a couple of books in French about French postal regulations which were probably requested by someone interested in philately. If someone knows of an old, pre-1923 text that has been scanned but needs to be OCR'd, or even one that hasn't yet been scanned, I can try to find a project manager so we can get it on line for all of us to use.
Vic

Carroll B. Knox

I still much prefer to reach for a book in my personal library, over reading the same thing on the monitor. Thanks, but I'll stick with Gutenberg's printing press for anything I want to have true archival quality!

pfletch

Dick,

Slightly off topic, but, just out of curiosity, what are "mothers' hours"?

On topic -- As for books vs. digital text, i subscribed to Britannica online before Wikipedia was started. Digitizing is definitely the way to go for current reference books. Budgetary problems are a matter of prioritizing governmental expenditures. Some jurisdictions are much better at it: Virginia's Prince William County vs. Rappahannock County come to mind instantly. The former has all kinds of information online and available by ILL. The latter has done zilch.

Mother of 3

Alan Mann

Are you aware of the new Sony Reader? It overcomes many of the objections mentioned above and makes eBooks much more desirable. I know of at least one other similar product due to be on the market this summer. I'm sure the price will come down quickly. Take a look at http://www.learningcenter.sony.us/assets/pa/prs/index.html.

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