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March 26, 2007

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B. R. McNamara

While it sounds great from the interoperability perspective, it seems to me to be a hacker's dream-come-true.

I would ONLY put info that had been stripped, then checked, double-checked, and triple-checked on a Web-delivered anything that I couldn't control. But, then, what good would that do me while on-the-road?

If you've got your own Web space and can run PHP/MySQL on your space, the better option is Darrin Lythgoe's "The Next Generation (of Genealogy Software)." It does all the above, but YOU control the entire database. On top of that, Darrin's a dream-come-true himself when it comes to technical support and exceptionally helpful to newbie users of TNG.

Pickard Trepess

Whatever happened to the good old fashioned pencil and paper - most libraries allow you to use those, and they will provide notes that never crash with a computer, disk, server or electricity problem. If the gentleman wanted to put them into his gedcom later, he would be able to take his time over it and re-check for errors and inconsistencies, rather than blindly copying data from library shelves. He could also probably afford a PDA by now, and carry his own program in his shirt pocket.

Pam

My on-line setup TNG got hacked. I did like the program, and I was signed up for notifications, but I got no information about updating before or after the hack. I've moved on from there. I will be using on-line storage, but only on an account where I have control panel access to the server. I will also be watching to see which programs are better hidden from hackers, and which ones are best a releasing patches and updates to prevent hacking.

Darrin Lythgoe

Hi Pam, I'm sorry to hear about your site. There was a vulnerability in TNG, but that has since been eliminated. An alert message was sent out at the time, and the message contained instructions for how to patch your site. I'm sorry you didn't receive it. I'm not sure what happened there. I will send out another alert message, just in case there are others who didn't receive the the first one.

Janet Colson

Just visited the Permasoft.com site and it seems there has been no postings or updated info since 2006. Is the program still in use?

Dick Eastman

The program was still in use heavily the week before last when the company owner was demonstrating it to attendees at the genealogy conference in Provo, Utah.

- Dick Eastman

Bill Buchanan

Two other alternatives that I use.

If I have access to a USB port, I run Personal Ancestral File 5.2 from a flash drive. It requires no installation, simply drag a COPY of the PAF5 folder from MyPrograms/FamilySearch to the flash drive. All of the features of PAF are fully available from my flash drive.

If I don't have access to a USB port, I can open my Gmail account and download my zipped copy of the PAF5 folder. Unzip it, use it, and delete it when I am finished. No installation is necessary.

Bill Keough

http://www.familytreeguide.com

Has a free web based genealogy site

Like Php Gedview and TNG .

Bill Keough

P Caldwell

Do any of these Family History Programs that you have accessed have passware protection? That is so another individual can leave a message correcting data be it name, date or location; question your material; update an item without actually changing the orginal submitter's data?
Perhaps the major concern of all those who would use a web-based system, at least it is mine.
Thanks also for the great suggestion for password/s.
Phyllis

theKiwi

In reply to:

Do any of these Family History Programs that you have accessed have passware protection
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I posted some notes about how TNG works in this regard in this thread

http://blog.eogn.com/eastmans_online_genealogy/2007/03/a_new_computer_.html#comments

Cheers

Roger

Dick Eastman

The discussion of who can update what is a non-issue for PedigreeSoft.com, reviewed above. Everything is under the direct control of the person who creates the original data. As I wrote:

"One thing that I especially like about PedigreeSoft.com is that your database remains just that: yours and yours alone. Unlike some other online genealogy services, PedigreeSoft.com keeps your data separate from everyone else's data. Your data remains as your personal information; visible only to those people you choose to share with, if any. There is no automatic merge into a master database of any sort."

- Dick Eastman

Carlton Brooks

The historical society (Arizona Jewish Historical Society) I volunteer at wants to create a website on their server to add the names of Jews who come from Arizona of which we have a good collection from our archives already. I have looked at the sites where people can upload their gedcoms and create an area like at PedigreeSoft.com. Which is something we would like to create for our members, and be viewable for the public.

Is there a way that my group can create the same thing for our users.

Barbara Lieber

Regarding the use of PAF on a USB drive:
Does that mean that I could use PAF on my Mac with a USB drive?
That's a great tip.

Do you know if PedigreeSoft. com allows for LDS ordinance dates?
Thanks, BL

Darrin Lythgoe

On the message from Carlton at the Arizona Jewish Historical Society: TNG could certainly be used for that. You can upload your various gedcom files into separate "trees", and then you can delegate responsibility for those files to various users. Contact me if you have questions.

On familytreeguide.com: That site is rebranding an earlier version of TNG, per a licensing agreement.

Pierce Reid

I suspect many "older" Windows programs can run off a USB flash drive. The trick is an ignorance of the Windows Registry, which is tightly controlled on PCs owned by most institutions.

I still use UFT as my main database. I have a copy on a flash drive that I have been able to run on a variety of locked down computers. I could, if I wanted, have the flash drive version be my "primary" database, so I could do updates as I find data in various repositories.

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