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March 04, 2007

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Karen Beck

I just bought the $1.99 deal to see a multi-page Southern Claim; however, it did not give me access to all pages, only the first page. My receipt says: "Image Purchased" not "Document" as your article indicated. I guess I'll have to pay the monthly rate to obtain the whole document.

Joan Armistead

When looking by state, and then county, and then name note that the index has not been well edited. Example Lauderdale County in Alabama is spelled Lauderdale, Landerdale, Laududale and Launderdals. While the choices for the names of individuals seem to be alpha ordered by their first name although some are by the last name when the indexer entered a comma. Which I suspect was the way it was supposed to be done.

Jason Presley

The documents are transcribed exactly as found, which is why there are so many oddities in the names. A major point of the service is that you can annotate all of the documents yourself if you see something that needs correcting or elaboration.

Sylvia Akin

Several years ago, I requested a copy of my ancestor's SCC file. I received 123 pages. Most were depositions given by her friends and neighbors, who were witness to General Grant's raid on her property. Their stories confirmed stories I had heard about the event as a child. The depositions also contained valuable genealogical information; death dates, causes of death, a glimpse of family life, and most important the name of her nephew which was the proof I needed to connect my line to the South Carolina branch of the family. I strongly urge anyone who finds their ancestor's name on the index to obtain their file.

Karen Beck

In followup to my original post, I must say I am impressed with footnote's personnel. They read my previous post and have refunded my $1.99 without even being asked! Also, I had sent them a suggestion and they responded asking me to be more specific. There are real human beings listening to what is being said about their website and they really care!

When viewing the Southern Claim I was interested in, it was 45 pages long. I first printed one of the copies and then decided to just download all the images. I downloaded all of them as jpeg images and think I prefer that to printing. These documents are full of interesting information. Thank you Dick Eastman and Footnote!!

soccermom

Great idea and a great database to add, but I'm worried about how many mistakes it has in the indexing.

I have a photocopy of the complete Southern Claims record for D.A. "Doc" Gilbert, Lincoln Co., TN. He was one of the 20% of applicants who received compensation after the war. I tried to find his record on footnote.com, but was UNable to find it at all. Checked Lincoln, Bedford, Fayette, Giles Counties, TN and the blank and no county entries at the top of the county list. Searched for Gilbert in TN. NO LUCK. Not a good sign for this database. The handwriting in his file is very legible, so I'm wondering why it isn't indexed.

The SC records are fabulous, by the way. How else would I have known that Gilbert kept his son Peter out of the Confederate Army?

Jason Presley

I was able to find the claim of my 5th great grandfather, John Minton, who lived in Gravelly Springs, Alabama, where the largest massing of troops (up to that time) in the Western Hemisphere occurred during the war. I never knew the plural for beef was "beeves"! Apparently General Sherman's army made off with Mr. Minton's beeves, along with his chickens, horses, sheep and all the corn and feed the soldiers could card away.

Chuck Sherrill

Keep in mind that Allowed Claims from most of the southern states are not part of the Footnote documents. The allowed claims from only four states have been microfilmed by the National Archives (GA, AL, VA, WVA). Those are included on Footnote. The others (TN, MS, TX, NC, SC, etc.) are only available for research at the National Archives branch in College Park MD.

Teresa Elliott

Thanks Chuck, you saved me some money. The ones I wanted to view were all allowed claims. Will have to do that via the National Archives. I will have to see if I can find me one that wasn't allowed.

James Boyter

I believe that my GGGFather William Smith served as a agent of the commission in Carroll County GA. Are there any sources of information on the men who served as agents?

Dr. Barbara Branch

I found my ancestor, James Branch, Chickasaw County, MS, listed in the SCC on ancestry.com but could not find a record on footnote.com. I already have a footnote.com account. Any suggestions?

Dr. Barbara Branch
drbabs@starstream.net

Linda Matthews

I am confused by the copyright status of the approved claims for Virginia. I have NARA microfilm roll 35 with my relative's approved claim on it, marked "for reference only." I transcribed it with effort. Now if I want to publish it, do I have the right? What if I want to do a print collection of all the approved claims for one county? I can't seem to get a straight answer about this and don't see why NARA documents wouldn't be perfectly public and free of copyright.

Dick Eastman

Disclaimer: I am not an attorney. What follows is my admittedly non-attorney opinion. For details, I would advise you to contact an attorney specializing in intellectual property issues.

The Southern Claims Commission records (in their original form) are public domain and will always be public domain, assuming that Congress doesn't change the copyright laws. You have always been legally able to look at the original documents on paper or to look at government-created microfilm images of the originals and you have always been legally able to transcribe those records as you wish. That hasn't changed.

In the future, you will still be able to legally transcribe the original documents on paper or to transcribe government-created microfilm images of the original records as you wish.

What you CANNOT do is take someone else's "new and improved" images and republish those elsewhere without the permission of the people who created the "new and improved" version.

If someone else improved the clarity of the images, created an every-name index, and made other improvements, they have a copyright on the improvements although not on the original documents. You cannot add even more improvements on top of their improvements and publish the results. However, you will always be legally able to use the original (unimproved) documents and transcribe and publish those as you wish. There is no change.

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