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December 27, 2007

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Judith Harper

Dick
Fascinating stories here - thanks for bringing them to our attention.
I specifically wanted to respond though to your comment about knights of the realm and particularly that 'the vast majority of knights are male; it’s been rare that a woman has received the title'.
A woman of course would never receive the title. The equivalent title for a woman is 'Dame', (e.g., Dame Mary Smith) and she would be known as 'Dame Mary'. I must add though that Dames are not at all rare in Commonwealth countries although some countries, such as New Zealand, have stopped awarding these honors of British origin in favour of our 'homegrown' honours.
One interesting difference between the sexes is that the wife of a knight gets the complimentary title of 'Lady' (e.g., Sir John Jones and Lady Jones) but the husband of a Dame does not get any complimentary title so such a couple would be Dame Mary Smith and Mr Henry Smith.

Boeufdaisy

This was a very nice and informative article, but I have some small quibbles.

[1] Sir Harry Oakes was a baronet (which is a hereditary knighthood), not a baron (which is a peerage title). (Which is good for the article, because otherwise Sangerville would be the town of a knight and a baron, not the town of two knights.)

[2] To be a knight (rather than an honorary knight) one must be a citizen of a Commonwealth country that has the queen as head of state, but that doesn't necessarily mean that an American must renounce his citizenship to be one; he could be a dual citizen. (For example, Sidney Poitier has dual citizenship (Bahaman and American), and as a knighted Bahamian is entitled to be called "Sir Sidney Poitier", though he doesn't always use the title.)

Dick Eastman

Hi Judith, I agree with the prefixes added to women's names but think I will stand by my original comment of "the vast majority of knights are male."

- Dick Eastman


Peggy

Interesting to see anything dramatic in the name of Sangerville. My grandmother was born there in the early 1900s. Her father was the horse and buggy doctor in town and evidentally had bottles of booze tied under cover bridges in the area, for a quick drink on the way to treat a patient.

Phil Allbright

"Before Marconi invented radios" Sorry, Marconi did not invent radio. Give him credit for popularizing radio, but Tesla invented radio. Marconi's patent was turned down three times before he got JP Morgan's support and suddenly he got his patent. Tesla didn't have the money to defend his patent, but during WWII the US government realized the truth and sued Marconi's company. The Supreme Court found Marconi's patents invalid.

Tesla had made his patent public which saved radio manufactures a fortune.

Susan D. Slade Grossl

Dick, loved the article and my husband a gun owner and user did not know some of the info about Maxim. My Great Great Great Grandmother Clarinda Hodgdon Warren Graves is buried in the same cemetery as your ancestors. Her daughter Harriet married a Lovejoy from the area. I now know more history about the area and it's inhabitants to add to my family history.

p.s. The info about Maxim is also interesting to me because my dad's great Uncle is John Moses Browning.

Mary Arnot

Loved the paper on Hiram Maxim,it added to the general image of a family scamp. Hiram corresponded with my grandmother a fourth cousin and the family was proud of photos he sent of Lord and Lady Maxim. I would like to note however, that the information that Hiram and Hudson were twins is not correct. The 1891 Census from England County Kent Bexley Heath Dartford, Christ Church at Ancestry.com recorded both men in the same household. Hiram S. Maxim age 51 a civil mechanical engineer, who was born in U.S. State of Maine. Also with him his wife Sarah age 36 born in the U.S. in Boston . With Lord and Lady Maxim at the time was Hudson age 38, an agent of a Gun Company. Hudson Maxim was born in the U.S. in Orenville.

Sharon

Having ancestors from Maine, I appreciate the History lessons. Thanks.

Dick Eastman

---> My grandmother was born there in the early 1900s.

I was born about ten miles from there, although a few years later.

- Dick Eastman

Richard Bidwell

Mr. Eastman -- You must stop writing such articles. They are so interesting and informative that I spend too much time reading them! Seriously, great tales. I was aware of Hiram maxim and the machine gun, etc., but had no idea that the silencer was not by the original Hiram or that other significant Maxims were around. As for the Oakes matter, in 1943 I was a teenager in Florida where I grew up, and that fact made the murder and its follow-on was a page one story, even with the war being the continuing Big Story. As I recall the presence of the Duke of Windsor and his sorry history made the whole thing even more of a sensation. Please keep up the great work.

Dick Bidwell

Christina

Great articles! My grandmother always said Sir Harry Oakes was her cousin. Her mother was an Oakes, so I never questioned it...now that I do genealogy, I have found that Sir Harry was her 3rd half cousin twice removed.

Chris

Lloyd Danforth

Great story. Thank you. Sangerville plays a part in my Genealogy. When I inquired about my gr, grandfather John Danforth's wife's name my grandmother, her Dau. in law, in her Boston accent, said something like 'Blagston'. The Danforth book by Rollo May claimed that John had married Mellie Blackstone and removed to Bangor from Litchfield, ME. When I looked for names in ME that sounded like those there turned out to be several variations.
I found a record of the marriage between John Danforth and Amelia Blackden. The civil ceremony took place in Bangor and the wedding in Sangerville. I went to Sangerville looking for Blackdens, but, could not find any. Years later, I found her mother who had remarried a couple of times was living in Sangerville with her 2nd or 3rd husband at the time of the wedding.
Lloyd Danforth

John L. Knabenschuh

Fascinating article. Genealogy or not, it was a great read.

Jean

I enjoyed reading about the "Knights of Sangerville". I always read anything I see about Sangerville, hoping to uncover more of my heritage. My grgrandfather, Hiram Stacy grew up in Sangerville and surrounding area. Born 1802 and died 1874. Don't know exactly where he was born or who his parents were.

Good to hear about other people from Sangerville.

Jean

robert stacey

I am interested in your part of the stacey family.

I descend from William Stacey b 1800 who married rebecca griffith probably born c 1802.

Just last night I foun an ancient writing from England which indicates that a Stacy was knighted by Henry I.

I'm awaiting a return of my order for the book in which details are given that I ordered from amazon.com

monabeeler

my great-grandmother Elizabeth Maxim was a sister to the Maxim brothers. Have heard stories all my life about them
but just knew I was related. Wish I had paid more attention when all my family was alive. Just wondering if there are any surviving relatives out there. Thanks

George Barton

My research indicates that Hiram and Hudson were not twins. They were born 13 years apart, Hudson on Feb 3, 1853 in Ornevill Maine. I am curious as to the source of the information that you have.

Mary Polley

Hi. My husband and I have moved to Sangerville and have tried to find out information about our house. We would try the Library, but the hours are limited and it is difficult to get there at a time when it is opened. We wanted to know if you would have any info for us. Maybe a way to serch ourselves? not really sure what you can do? Just searching.If you think you can help I will give you more info. Thanks

Dick Eastman

Hi Mary. I was born and raised in Dexter so I know your area well. When growing up, I spent many hours swimming at Center Pond in Sangerville.

I doubt if the Sangerville library has much information about your house. All such information is kept at the Registrar of Deeds at the county courthouse in Dover-Foxcroft. When you purchased your house, your deed was recorded at that courthouse. The same is true for all the earlier purchasers of the property.

The courthouse is probably open during normal business hours. Those documents are free and open to the public.

- Dick Eastman

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