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Miriam Wernon

Here's another reason: all those magazines are really aimed at beginners, not experienced or advanced users. So after a while the users move on.

BTW the pineconeandtassle.com link does not work.

Joy Rich

The blog of the Maine Genealogical Society quotes Debbie Roberge's note as saying "But also with more and more information on the Internet for free, less and less people wanted to pay for a newsletter that couldn’t guarantee them the information they were looking for."

Gloria Ishida

Clicking on pineconeandtassel web site as above brought message "could not be found".

Randy Buss

Note that Heritage Quest was bought up and incorporated into Everton's Genealogical Helper or whatever its current title is. I think it is carried by Borders (only because I don't recall seeing it at the Barnes and Noble store I stopped at last night).

My one complaint about the thriving magazines is that they don't have more "how to" computer articles like the British magazines do (or at least one does). This is a complaint I have about American computer magazines, too - too much hardware and software reviews and not enough "step throughs" other than setting up webpages. I can't think of examples of projects I'm thinking of, but maybe something on the line of how to create online or CD/DVD scrapbooks for the relatives, setting up family newsletters, sorting and annotating photos, etc. - something that I'm at a basic level and would like to improve. I always feel like I get about a tenth of the functionality of my computer that I could be getting. (My examples may be a little lame. I remember one of the first issues of FamilyPC showed how to make personal "baseball cards", something that would be adapatable to genealogy. Or there was another computer magazine that had a lot of projects, but did not survive past maybe six issues - it came out during a period when there was a bit of a paper shortage and as a new startup couldn't survive the increased costs right then.)

Judith Arnn-Knight

Please excuse my being off-topic but there is an excellent computer magazine "Smart Computing" that I have taken for several years. It blends reviews with actual hands-on problem solving. I think Richard may have recommended it in this newsletter a long time ago; if not it was a recommendation in a newsletter that I read. In addition to the journal itself they have a fantastic tech support forum for subscribers. I have yet to post any question for assistance that was not promptly answered by another subscriber or the forum supervisor.

Needless to say this is not a genealogy journal but it is extremely helpful in computer basics for those of us that are not computer experts. It may be too basic if you are skilled at hardware/software but for those of us that are not I heartily recommend it


www.smartcomputing.com

Betty

Hello. It is sad that magazines that you can hold in your hands and read are slowly disappearing. I much prefer that to attempting to read a magazine on-line.

Definitely off-topic but I just found out that the "Sesame Street" magazine has stopped publication. There is still a web site for it. But, as with genealogy researchers, how many families have a computer with the Internet - and know how to use it? "Low-income families" are still a major part of our society and should be considered when making decisions.

By the way, I've been researching my KIDDER and WILKINS ancestors in Maine, 1700's to 1900's, for 15 years. And, I don't remember hearing about "The Pine Cone and Tassel."


Colleen

Just think about all of us graphic designers and the writers that have lost their jobs because magazines and newsletters are no longer in print.

Diane

I find I like reading print magazines and look forward to their arrival, but storage has become a problem. I was originally keeping for two years, but now I've begun buying the CD versions at the end of the year and giving my old issues away.

Most of the smaller genealogy societies I belong to, now distribute their newsletters via pdf file.

I too would like to see some more step-by-step how-to projects. Show me how to make one digitized scrapbook page and more regarding computer usage.

Debbie Roberge

Thank you Dick for the kind words you have written about my former newsletter "The Pine Cone and Tassel". It was something I really loved doing for the past five years and gas was one of the contributing factors to disbanding it. At my highest point I had over 250 subscribers, but when renewals went out for the sixth year only 50 were going to renew. Upon contacting many of the former subscribers they told me that they could find more and more information for "free" on the internet, so why pay for it. Some even said they didn't care about "sources" that I gave with each article. To the ones who commented they never heard of my newsletter I just want to say I advertised in different magazines which was one of my biggest expenses with no luck. I am sorry you didn't get to know me, maybe I just didn't advertise in the right places.

Ellen Healy

I think printed genealogical magazines have value even for the experienced genealogist. I am not experienced by any stretch of the imagination, but I've found that reading each issue jogs the mind about some point that may have gotten pushed way back in the brain. I also share my magazines with my cousin and my genealogy society. I bring the latest issues; members look at them and decide if they want to go and buy their own copy.

Pam

As I read this post formed an informal comparison to other areas where print publications have faded. No Depression: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No_Depression_(magazine) recently published it's last print magazine, as did Bluegrass Now: http://www.bluegrassnow.com . While these publications featured material quite different from those you mention, the trend is clear.

I think the first person who can develop a truly usable, affordable, digital reader or electronic display tool is going to make a little money. And I will certainly appreciate it, I could use something other than my laptop to curl up with (and read from).

Susie Perkins

With more and more printed magazines being no longer published is sad. While some of them offer PDF or whatever method they have to be of benefit, think of the amount of ink that you are using to print and save this information. Ink is highter than car gas, saving to a CD is a solutio, but, will that CD still be availabale when you need to read something you remember reading. Is there an index or visible index on the cover? My point, ink is expensive. My well used quarterlies have been donated to a new up coming genealogy society and have helped several ladies that have had problems with research. Lets keep the printed copies.

Stephanie Weiner

As far as I know, print still has the longest shelf life (please correct me
if I'm wrong here!). So, it appears that much current knowledge will no longer be available 50-100 years hence if info transfers to electronic media.

Theodore Rice

I think if I was starting a magazine today I would look first to publishing it on the web, and then offer a printed version to those who wanted it for whatever additional cost was necessary to cover printing and postage.

This is the way things are headed, like it or not. Many magazines are offering websites that complement their printed edition at present, as mentioned by others, but this is just a step on the way to totally web based publication. As fuel and postage rates rise, this trend will only accelerate.

Of course, it is going to be necessary to charge enough to cover web based publication. However much people try to cling to the "free" model, it just won't work. Advertising may be able to cover some of the cost, and advertising also is increasingly moving to the web.

Before it becomes too popular, however, we need better web based readers than conventional computers. The Kindle is a step in the right direction. Other readers are coming out. Right now they are too expensive and not standardized.

For those who want print, machines like the Espresso Book Machine, which publishes on demand, may eventually fill the need.

Those who don't have computers will have a problem, but used computers are almost free and internet access is cheap. If they can't afford that, they probably can't afford a subscription to a print publication either. Then there is always the library and internet cafes.

Linda

In your list of current magazines you left out Family Chronicles' newest publication, "Discovering Family History". It's first issue was May/June 2008. It's aimed at new researchers, but has articles of interest to others as well. There's a free issue online.

Lois

The Publishers of Family Chronicles, etc. had the advantage of the lower Canadian Dollar until recently. It remains to be seen whether they can thrive with the currency of their major market now around par with their. Of course, if their competition has disappeared, their prospects are good. I find Ancestry magazine to be good for the waiting room at the office but way too light and fluffy to hold one's interest for long. The new Everton's Genealogical Helper has a really different, less readable format. The English magazines cost so much more. That leaves Family Chronicle and Family Tree. Since I much prefer paper magazines and books (lap tops don't cut it in the backyard), I hope there is a big enough market for both to thrive. I would like to see some articles aimed at more advanced readers, but perhaps that is not true of most of their current and potential readership.

Diane Haddad

Hi, everyone,
The print vs. digital issue is affecting the entire publishing industry. Family Tree Magazine has been going strong since our first issue in January 2000, and we have no plans to do away with our print edition. But we are finding that readers are accustomed to getting information in a variety of ways these days, so we’re responding with extra online content (as Dick mentioned), our weekly E-mail Update newsletter, back issues and special editions on CD, digital downloads of our State Research Guide articles, our blogs and online Forum, online videos and our recently launched podcast.

I love Dick's description of "a combined online and offline magazine." We hope that offering genealogists this variety of options will help them achieve their research goals and help keep us around for a long time to come.
Diane

Jennifer Bumann

Our problem isn't cost, which is certainly a factor, but lack of interest from any members of our society in helping to put out a newsletter. And those who have done it for a few years are burnt out. We do publish a short 2 page .pdf version and only print out enough to mail to libraries etc., but it only has news and upcoming events, little bits of that nature.

Janet

I agree with some of the others: I like having that printed magazine to read. For waiting, whether in doctors' offices or anywhere else, one is unlikely to have a computer handy to use to catch up on the latest genealogy articles. I keep a tote bag loaded with various genealogy sources in printed form that I take with me for just those "waiting times".

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