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September 07, 2008

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Patty Huston

When I attend a Genealogy conference I try to stay in a nice hotel. I travel with my job so I know to watch for the "extra charges & taxes". I did not attend this year's FGS or NGS conference because of the expense. I have attended genealogy conferences in Chicago, Milwaukee, Salt Lake City, Dallas, St. Louis, Davenport, Pittsburgh, etc. If the price of the conference & hotel accomdations continue to increase I will not be attending a major genealogy conference instead I will attend smaller conferences.
Patty

Linda Stienstra

I agree with Patty. I live very close to Philly and by the time I added the conference hotel, registration, and meals my costs were almost 1K. Now if I'd flown rather than spend $24 for a RT train ticket, my costs would have been dramatically higher. Perhaps the fact of "significantly less than usual" attendees could be attributable to the costs. I saw very few from the area I live in and nobody I knew.
This is not to say I don't enjoy conferences. I do attend as many as are feasible. I only stayed three nights but I can only imagine the costs associated with staying five nights. I'll at least get my Marriott points out of the stay. :-)

Mary Finley

I attended the conference traveling each day by regional rail...$2.00 round trip for seniors. I was surprised to discover other senior attendees did not know they could travel Septa FREE with their Medicare card as proof of age. I rode a bus to HSP and the Market St. El to the archives.
Walking did become a problem for this reasonably fit senior. Maybe that's why I missed your display after all these years reading your newsletter!
It was a great conference. I am hearing impaired and didn't miss a thing.
I told everyone I met about LDS FamilySearchLabs.org where one can find great "new" records FREE.

Joan Shurtliff

I agree the hotel and subsequent parking costs (if not staying at the hotel) are high. Perhaps the groups should start looking at what I call "second tier" city facilities. They are not quite as large and, perhaps, not quite as expensive and many have good (not great) transportation connections. The conferences I have attended have had about 1,500 people and a 15,000 person facility may be overkill.

Barbara Hug

Isn't it time for the different genealogical societies to stop the competition and start to "Partner" on regional and national conferences? As expenses get higher and people's income become more stagnant, I believe there will be fewer and fewer conference attendees, which isn't good for anyone.

Ray Wolfgang

Very nice to have had an opportunity to personally thank Kick Eastman for so many really useful tips and comments over many years.

Of great interest to any genealogist or historian, of course, is the NARA's "Electronic Records Archives". The brochure on this project, however, reads like the concept for a futuristic weapons system, and the contractor selected to implement this program is none other than the nation's largest defense contractor. What happened to simple indexing, scanning, and the folks at familysearch.org, Ancestry.com, or USGenWeb, among others?

My concern here is that government agencies, after spending years and billions of dollars to "go electronic" walk away from a project, because it simply failed. This has happened to the IRS and the FBI, for example. In my opinion, this task should have been turned over to an organization(s) with a track record in genealogy.

Kip Sperry

Experienced family history presenters should know enough to (1) take a back-up of their presentation on a flash drive to the meeting, (2) arrive early and test the presentation to make sure it works okay, test the focus on the projector, and know how to dim the lights near the front of the lecture room, (3) test the sound system.

Roy Nelson

Dick:
Regarding your hardware problems, I seem to recall that in one of your past articles you mentioned getting a Verizon aircard. I recently got the Verizon USB727 aircard and have been looking for a router to go with it. But there seem to be very few compatible routers for the aircard because of the need for a USB port. Would you mind letting me know what router you used with your aircard?

Cindy Hineman Davis, Vero Beach

Thank you, Dick, for a neutral view of the FGS national conference, in person and in writing. Your booth in the vendor hall is like a breath of fresh air!! The end of conference dinner is another place to discuss how it went and I enjoyed that, too!!
I would like to add a bit of additional information I learned and a few comments. Since I became active in the genealogy world, the one thing I find invaluable to my family history education is attending the NGS and FGS conferences. In addition to meeting and talking to the best of the best in genealogy, I look forward to the 'big announcements.' I recall the FamilySearch.org announcement and the excitement it caused. It's too bad more details were not offered in the TGN announcement, as I had some concerns, too. Although, after questioning the FGS and Ancestry contributing team members, my enthusiasm began to build.
Here is what I was told: FamilySearch.org and Ancestry.com are indeed working together, as they meet weekly to discuss this massive project of digitizing the world's records. One goal of these meetings is to avoid duplicate work. FamilySearch.org has helped Ancestry.com fine-tune their indexing process. FGS and their Societies or individual members who participate in an indexing project WILL be able to view and receive a copy of the images of the project they index. FGS is hopeful that local societies will be able to draw new members from the millions of on line users of Ancestry.com. (It is likely that many people who do their research on line are not even aware of the benefits of belonging to a genealogical society.)
It is my intention to stay informed and watch how this develops. I am presently a local society officer and look for any additional benefits we can offer to grow our membership. Let's hope this becomes a win-win for all!

Mary Lou Delahunt

Labor Day weekend is a poor air travel experience. Especially if you have to use connecting flights as I do.

Bev Petersen

Dick -

I sat with a speaker one night for dinner at the conference and we chatted out who gained and who lost at this conference. This speaker gave three talks and with the fees he got, air travel, conference hotel lodging for 4 nights and the seminar, he netted about $1900.00. I started listing my expenses and quickly came up with a minimum of $3200.00 which included gasoline, hotel, food, parking (!!! which was INSANE !!!) and booth "rent" and more to come! This is all before I sell a thing!!!

What the seminar folks don't realize is that the one owner vendors, as myself, cannot keep doing this. If they keep this up, no one will be to vend except the Utah Hotels, the DNA folks and Ancestry! I too noted the lack of vendors attending and see less and less each time I go.

It was great seeing the wonderful artifacts in Philadelphia, but at what cost? I was told there were 1200 registered before I left from Indiana but you say 800? Hmmmmm.......I guess they really wanted me to get there BUT, who is correct here? They better review a lot of things.

Thanks to those who supported me!

Bev - http://www.FunStuffForGenealogists.com for those interested.

George L. Trigg

I have some other negative comments about this conference. First, the little map in the introductory brochure was less than useless. It did not point out that while the postal address for the hotel is on Market Street, the main entrance is not on that street. It did include an arrow leading from Market Street to the side street on which the main entrance is. I tried following this arrow, and found the entrance to a valet parking facility -- which turned out to be that for another hotel, as I found out when I tried to register at the hotel, believing that I had a reservation. I must say that the people in the parking facility were helpful far and above what might have been expected, and took my car, with my luggage, to the parking facility at the correct hotel. And they would not even accept a tip! However, the main entrance was not clearly identified even on the correct street.

I also have a comment on two related presentations, by a man from the Irish National Archives. Instead of one of the electronic projectors, he used an overhead projector. Unfortunately, the woman who handled the transparencies was not very adept, and kept moving them during the discussion, with the natural result that it was next to impossible to relate the display with the talk. To make matters worse, the presenter himself often turned away from the microphone, making his speech largely inaudible. I was very disappointed, as I expect to be in Dublin in early October to do some research, and would have appreciated getting some input from these talks.

And I heartily agree with the comments on pricing.

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