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Rhonda

I had the same pop-up, but I couldn't exit out of it. I had to close the tab to get rid of it. I was on my internet provider's website when this happened. Annoying!

Mike St. Clair

Unfortunately, if you buy and install some of these scams, you can also be faced with a difficult cleanup to remove the installed software. Note that if you ever do get suckered into buying something like this, you may be able to get your money back via your credit card company.

Jeff Piper

Microsoft and Washington State Attorney General have filed suits against these "scareware" purveyors. See http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/7645420.stm for the story

Rae Williams

AVAST is another reputable free anti-virus program. I have used it for over a year, traveling to all kinds of genealogy sites that may be haunted by malware.

I taught computer security for my company for seven years. The advice to Google anything that is presented to you is good. You can google the name or the message that pops up; you will almost always find useful information.

Donde Smith

Amazing! I had the same(?) 45 infected files on my Mac! Glad to hear there is a suit!

JT

There are many dangers with this supposed antivirus program if it gets into a computer running Windows.
1. It infects the computer and must be properly removed.
2. It makes changes in the system that must be corrected.
3. If you give them your credit card info, you will be charged for worthless software.
4. In at least one case there was a further charge made to the credit card about a month later - so you may have to cancel your card if they get the number.

PWR

I use both an anti-virus and firewall (McAfee) which I have set for automatic updates, yet I still manually update at least once a week to be assured I have not missed any. When I encounter the pop-up you described, I immediately press control-alt-delete and blow out before any action (hopefully) is initiated by the invading program. It's better to escape and log on again that take any chances these scammers may get into your machine.

Roy

Dick,

You said: >

When one sees one of these pop-up windows, one should never click on any of the "buttons" in the pop-up window. They are usually not really buttons -- any click anywhere inside the window will be a "yes" click. One should instead click on the "X" in the top right frame of the window (or equivalent in non-Windows systems) to kill the window.

Doug

Exiting the browser window can disrupt a thread of thought or research, sometimes exiting the entire browser program. A better solution, in my experience with the same pop-up, is to click your "back" button and get off the page that way. I'm not saying this will work in all situations, but try that first.

Roy

Doug: I meant that you should click on the X of the small pop-up window to kill it, not the main browser window!

Terry Mulcahy

Hi Dick,
Wouldn't it be easier to just block all pop-ups? Most browsers have that option. Then you wouldn't be subjected to any of these scams.

theKiwi

-->Wouldn't it be easier to just block all pop-ups? Most browsers have that option. Then you wouldn't be subjected to any of these scams.

This is generally true, but then sites that rely on popups - like printing postage online at USPS won't work as they can't pop up the window with the postage label in it. I use Safari which doesn't allow individual site preferences for pop ups.

Roger

Jan Levie

I got hit with this virus and had to take my computer in to get it cleaned out. I couldn't close it out. Their screen stayed in the middle of my monitor no matter what other program was running underneath. Naturally, it was just before I was going on a family history vacation and desperately needed my computer. You have to admit, it's a pretty clever scam--they not only get your $49 or $99 for the worthless software, they also get your credit card information--and I'm sure they're not above using it either!

Jon Ackroyd

Pop-up blockers like Quero and Google Toolbar are so effective at stopping these things that I have not been hassled this way since I installed them - free - a couple of years ago.

Either can be turned off to allow a legitimate pop-up to show with 1 click.

There is often NO PLACE you can click on the screen to get rid of it without a serious chance of incurring problems. This is called 'clickjacking' On a PC the only safe way out is CTRL-ALT-DEL, choose the offending Window and then end the process.

As you show a little education about this stuff can pay off big time.

Just yesterday a new student told me that the day before class this same thing happened to her husband. They had no blocker and they are now out of pocket 60 bucks for a useless program they were suckered into buying. And who knows what further horrors await them.

Mary W.B.

All downloads I make are always done through Kim Kimando's website, if you are not familiar with her she has a call in national radio show and is a computer expert, has had a show for many years, go to her website where you have links to various free anti-virus, virus scanner programs, free firewalls etc. and these have all been checked out by her and her staff already...kimkomando.com

Gordon Banks

It IS illegal. It is fraud. The problem is convincing the proper authorities to go after them.

joyce

Just a note that it appears to download the full version of TrendMicro, you need to choose one of their sales offers. The one-time House Call scan seems to be free.

Brenda

My husband does some freelance computer consulting occasionally, and a few months ago he had a client who fell for this scam. Usually it will only take a couple of hours and simple software to get rid of viruses, etc, but this one was particularly insidious and hard to nail down. It took the better part of a 3-day weekend and some special software tools to clean off the computer. Plus, later the client told my husband that he found $300 in fraudulent charges on his credit card from the scammer(s). Ugh.

Dennis Lohr

Alt+F4 closes an open window on a PC (pop-up or otherwise).

As some have alluded to, the "X" that typically closes an open window is disguised in this case. It's actually the "Yes" part of "Click Yesto Install?"

Alt+F4 avoids the click, and therefore the virus.

Harry Brion

A similar situation is the Registry Cleaners.
They are a good way to speed up your Windows because afer using them you will probably need to reload Windows.

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